Stohler von Arboldswil BL

[Peter.D]

Einen guten Überblick über die sozialen Probleme während des 1. Weltkriegs gibt auch Kapitel 5 des entsprechenden Beitrags im HLS. Eine englische Version gibt es dazu aber auch nicht.

Peter

[Peter.D]

Where might I find photos/illustrations of children's toys that were popular when my grandfather was a child (1901-) in Basel?

That's not exactly my area of expertise - but you could get in touch with the toy museum.

Peter

[JaneAusten7]

Peter, thank you for both your excellent suggestions!

[JaneAusten7]

As I've been reading through information on WWI in Basel, I've come across something I hadn't thought about before. Many sources state that because Switzerland was neutral that many think that men didn't have to leave their homes, which is not correct. Many men were sent to the borders to be ready to defend them. Apparently, being called up to go to the defense of your country didn't mean you were paid, so many families left behind lost their father/husband's financial support.

Is there a way to find out if Rudolf Stohler (1876) was sent to do military duty elsewhere?

[Peter.D]

Is there a way to find out if Rudolf Stohler (1876) was sent to do military duty elsewhere?

That would be a time-consuming search that will not answer your question with certainty. First of all, you would have to find the sheet for Rudolf Stohler senior in the Stammkontrolle of Basel-Stadt sorted by year of birth. There is then a reference to his military unit or units. In the corresponding Korpskontrolle, which could also belong to Baselland, you would find Rudolf's military services and assignments. Where exactly his unit (Landwehr based on his age) served during WWI (e.g. at the French border) can often only be found in the diaries of the captains, which are by no means always preserved.

Peter

[JaneAusten7]

That would be a time-consuming search that will not answer your question with certainty.

Disappointing to hear, but thank you so much Peter for explaining that to me.

[JaneAusten7]

I know this is a long shot, but I noticed recently that Scouting was founded in Switzerland in 1912. Are there any records available of who was a Boy Scout by any chance? Grandfather Stohler would have been the perfect age for that I think?

[Peter.D]

Are there any records available of who was a Boy Scout by any chance?

It looks as if the membership lists prior to 1900 no longer survive. Apparently, the Basel Scout Section has handed over all older files to the State Archives.

Peter

[JaneAusten7]

It looks as if the membership lists prior to 1900 no longer survive. Apparently, the Basel Scout Section has handed over all older files to the State Archives.

Although I wish the news was better, I thank you, Peter!

Since that was in the membership list sections, do they have one for Masonic Lodges? My GF Stohler was a Mason in America, so maybe he was in Switzerland too?

[Peter.D]

Since that was in the membership list sections, do they have one for Masonic Lodges?

Membership of this organization was top secret. At first glance, I don't see any membership lists in the StABS for the period in question. But you could ask here.

Peter

[JaneAusten7]

But you could ask here.

Wonderful! I'll contact them and see what they say. Thank you!

[JaneAusten7]

My grandfather Stohler mentioned that he had been in the "Ski Patrol" while he was at University. He didn't give much more information to my aunt, but mentioned that he had been involved with rescues.

Do you think that would that be part of his military obligation? Or would this be something separate? And would there be any records of this?

[JaneAusten7]

In this Stohler-Tschan family page under the parents and comments section for Jakob Stohler what do the notes mean? https://memory.bl.ch/familienforschung/ ... r%20Ziefen

[Peter.D]

In this Stohler-Tschan family page under the parents and comments section for Jakob Stohler what do the notes mean?

Do you mean at the top right? The parents of Jakob Stohler-Tschan are noted there, with the reference to the first family book and the family number 159 for the parents Stohler-Rudin. From there you can then go back one generation to family number 108 of the grandparents Stohler-Schäfer and finally to number 56 Stohler-Rudin, Heinrich in turn also the son of Heinrich Stohler-Rudin!

Johannes Stohler-Schäfer was a miller by profession, which is why his son Jakob Stohler-Rudin is labeled “Müllers”, i.e. son of the miller. Müllers was then probably used as the local nickname of the family, instead of the family name.

Peter

[JaneAusten7]

Do you mean at the top right? The parents of Jakob Stohler-Tschan are noted there, with the reference to the first family book and the family number 159 for the parents Stohler-Rudin. From there you can then go back one generation to family number 108 of the grandparents Stohler-Schäfer and finally to number 56 Stohler-Rudin, Heinrich in turn also the son of Heinrich Stohler-Rudin!

I was talking about the profession, but you have shown me even more with your above information that I didn't realize before!

Johannes Stohler-Schäfer was a miller by profession, which is why his son Jakob Stohler-Rudin is labeled “Müllers”, i.e. son of the miller. Müllers was then probably used as the local nickname of the family, instead of the family name.

Wow! I had no idea. I'm so glad I asked.

As always, Vielen Dank for all your help!!!!!!

[JaneAusten7]

For Jacob Stohler-Rudin https://memory.bl.ch/familienforschung/ ... r%20Ziefen it's written 7 May 1911 for his death and then below that is a word I can't figure out next to Liestel.

Next to his wife Barbara Rudin, is written a word I cannot understand at all. Next to that word is the 1.91. Is that where her family would be found since the 1.108. was Jacob's parents? So that would be the same book as the 108 but several pages back?

Underneath Barbara's name is a O with a dot in the middle.

Daughter, A. Maria has a O with a ~ in the middle.

Johann has a O with a - in the middle.

Their son Emil has a roman numeral III at the end.
What do all these symbols signify?

Children number 6-8 I cannot read their names can you?

Traditionally, in our family we have thought that both Jacob Stohler-Rudin and his wife Barbara were born in Arboldswil, is that what this document tells me?

Thank you for your patience with my many questions! I appreciate it very much.

[JaneAusten7]

My grandfather Stohler mentioned that he had been in the "Ski Patrol" while he was at University.

I was wondering if anyone knew who I might contact to ask about this kind of information?

[JaneAusten7]

Johannes Stohler-Schäfer was a miller by profession, which is why his son Jakob Stohler-Rudin is labeled “Müllers”, i.e. son of the miller. Müllers was then probably used as the local nickname of the family, instead of the family name.

After pondering this, is there any way to find out if he was the owner of the mill? And/or what mill it is and where it was located.

[JaneAusten7]

I'm sorry. Did I ask too many questions all at the same time? I apologize.

[Peter.D]

Did I ask too many questions all at the same time?

Yes, too many - at least for the limited time I would like to devote to answering them. In addition, many of your previous and presumably future questions can only be answered by on-site research in the respective archives. I would therefore recommend that you engage a professional genealogist for further research. You can find suggestions on the corresponding SGFF page.

Peter

[Walter]

For Jacob Stohler-Rudin it's written 7 May 1911 for his death and then below that is a word I can't figure out next to Liestel.

Ich lese dort "Pfrundhs. Liestal"
Das Pfrundhaus in Liestal war das kantonale Altersheim, erbaut 1852-1854.

[Walter]

Next to his wife Barbara Rudin, is written a word I cannot understand at all. Next to that word is the 1.91. Is that where her family would be found since the 1.108. was Jacob's parents? So that would be the same book as the 108 but several pages back?

Die Eltern der Barbara Rudin findet man im Familienregister Arboldswil, PDF 149 Nr. 91.
Das unleserliche Wort heist "Esthrhsjoggi" (Estherhansjoggi), der "Dorfname" von ihrem Vater Hans Jakob Rudin.

[JaneAusten7]

Yes, too many - at least for the limited time I would like to devote to answering them.

Please accept my sincerest apology for taking up so much of your valuable time and for the number of questions I've asked. My mistaken enthusiasm and complete lack of knowledge of where and what is available is no excuse. I understand your time is precious and I truly appreciate your past patience and willingness to help me. Again, please accept my humble apology.

[JaneAusten7]

Ich lese dort "Pfrundhs. Liestal"
Das Pfrundhaus in Liestal war das kantonale Altersheim, erbaut 1852-1854.

Thank you, Walter for both those answers.

[Walter]

What do all these symbols signify?

Das O mit - oder ~ steht vermutlich für das Sterbedatum

III steht für Familienregister Band III

Kinder 6-8 > Friedrich, Anna Barbara, Friedrich

[Walter]

Traditionally, in our family we have thought that both Jacob Stohler-Rudin and his wife Barbara were born in Arboldswil, is that what this document tells me?

Die Familie Johannes Stohler (Müller) und Anna Schäfer (mit Sohn Jakob) findet man im Familienregister Arboldswil, PDF 152, Nr. 108.
Der Geburtsort ist dort nicht erwähnt, vermutlich aber schon Arboldswil.

[Walter]

My grandfather Stohler mentioned that he had been in the "Ski Patrol" while he was at University. He didn't give much more information to my aunt, but mentioned that he had been involved with rescues.

Vielleicht war er Soldat der Gebirgstruppen der Schweizer Armee?

[JaneAusten7]

Das O mit - oder ~ steht vermutlich für das Sterbedatum

III steht für Familienregister Band III

Kinder 6-8 > Friedrich, Anna Barbara, Friedrich

Ah, ok. Thank you.

[JaneAusten7]

Vielleicht war er Soldat der Gebirgstruppen der Schweizer Armee?

Yes, I think this is very possible. In a sketchbook from his high school years for his freehand class I recognize, from a drawing he did, the uniform of one of the pictures found on the page you provided. I think this is the connection, thank you.

[JaneAusten7]

Die Familie Johannes Stohler (Müller) und Anna Schäfer (mit Sohn Jakob) findet man im Familienregister Arboldswil, PDF 152, Nr. 108.
Der Geburtsort ist dort nicht erwähnt, vermutlich aber schon Arboldswil.

There is a word next to Anna Schaefer's name that I don't understand. It looks like an "h" then "Sulbischburg?" But when I type this into the computer it doesn't recognize the place. Is that her place of birth?